It’s fascinating to watch, but I’m really trying to work out the sequence. The way I see it, there are 3 main events, which is the ongoing Biblical pattern we see throughout the Bible: Yah uses other nations to judge His sinful people and then goes and judges them. In this final end times scenario, we will see:
1. The destruction of Mystery Babylon (spiritual and economic -Yah uses other nations - Northern armies to accomplish);
2. The seige of Jerusalem (the Abom of Des? and the refining); and then
3. The final destruction of all other armies and systems that both went against Israel (OG Israel and spiritual Israel, not 1948 state or Judah-only line people).
But, how do you see the regathering and refining playing out? This is the question mark for me. I wonder if it’s a literal regathering (how??) or spiritual? And what is the role of the final Hebrew Israelite remnant? I’m still confused why Yah lashes out on other nations who treated ‘Israel’ poorly. This is hard for me to reconcile. Simply because ‘they’ are His people? And how much are we, as grafted in Israel, part of that?
Those are my thoughts. I’d love to hear yours or others!
This is very interesting to read when adding the perspective of the idea that we could be living in Revelation 20, Satans season. I haven’t read it all. But I have long said that they intend to do this due to prophecy. Do I see them as the deceivers? Certainly. They most certainly are.
For clarity, I do not teach that we are currently living in “satan’s little season” because he has not been loosed from the bottomless pit, yet. However, the first seal (white horse) has been opened, in my view, and the second seal (red horse) is about to be opened by Christ. God bless!
Thank you for your discernment and insight. How do you view Ezekiel 36-38? I have always seen the 1948 return of the diaspora in Eze 36. The rebirth of Israel as a thriving nation from the dry bones of the Holocaust in ch 37. The chastisement of Israel in 38-39 followed by a demonstration of God's sovereignty and power in his preservation of a remnant. While it is conjecture on my part I hypothesized that the Daniel 12 daily sacrifice might then be returned amid 1 Thess 5 "peace peace" Then taken away followed by "sudden destruction." Thus marking the beginning of the approximately 3.5-year tribulation as described in Dan 12, (1290 days) Rev 12 (1260 days) (a time, and times, and half a time), and Rev 13 (42) months. Is my exegesis distorted?
The regathering of Israel has yet to happen. First of all, only Judah came back, and it is known that they never really left. Secondly, Ezekiel 37 is very clear that both Israel and Judah will become one nation again and repent of their sins. Thirdly, Christ will be their king. And lastly, there is a covenant of peace. None of this has happened yet. Israel is still at large in the nations. The people in the land largely reject Christ or are atheists. Additionally, they have one of the largest gay populations in the world. Definitely does not sound like they have been repentant. As of this date, Christ has yet to return. As far as peace, I would hardly call running to bomb shelters regularly peace. Please read those chapters again and try to apply them to the 1948 state of Israel. If you are honest with yourself, you can't. It is impossible to match those chapters to our current day. Now apply Jeremiah 25:29-33 and that is more likely what is going to be happening in the near future.
Yeah if "I am honest with myself" I don't trust my own judgment and biases especially the ones of which I remain unaware. I find, pride an all too-common and dangerous trait in eschatology circles. I am in the process of questioning my favorite presuppositions.
As I understand it, Jeremiah 25 was fulfilled around 600 BC. While the contemporary English word "Jew" is derived from "Judah", more than the tribe of Judah has continued to return to the land since 1948. I see an emphasis on using those who "profaned His name" in reestablishing the "Land of Israel" for His name's sake in Ezekiel 36 - 37. Clearly, the people have not repented as a nation.
Granted man's motivation to reestablish the nation of Israel was driven by an ongoing quest for routes and resources, e.g. control of the Suez Canal, and was funded by the synagogue of Satan, e.g. the British government and Rothschilds. Mankind has its twisted agendas, but God causes them to work for good for those who love Him and are called according to His purpose.
That said, I just bought Abraham's book so I will suspend any further eschatological hypotheses until I finish it.
It’s fascinating to watch, but I’m really trying to work out the sequence. The way I see it, there are 3 main events, which is the ongoing Biblical pattern we see throughout the Bible: Yah uses other nations to judge His sinful people and then goes and judges them. In this final end times scenario, we will see:
1. The destruction of Mystery Babylon (spiritual and economic -Yah uses other nations - Northern armies to accomplish);
2. The seige of Jerusalem (the Abom of Des? and the refining); and then
3. The final destruction of all other armies and systems that both went against Israel (OG Israel and spiritual Israel, not 1948 state or Judah-only line people).
But, how do you see the regathering and refining playing out? This is the question mark for me. I wonder if it’s a literal regathering (how??) or spiritual? And what is the role of the final Hebrew Israelite remnant? I’m still confused why Yah lashes out on other nations who treated ‘Israel’ poorly. This is hard for me to reconcile. Simply because ‘they’ are His people? And how much are we, as grafted in Israel, part of that?
Those are my thoughts. I’d love to hear yours or others!
This is very interesting to read when adding the perspective of the idea that we could be living in Revelation 20, Satans season. I haven’t read it all. But I have long said that they intend to do this due to prophecy. Do I see them as the deceivers? Certainly. They most certainly are.
For clarity, I do not teach that we are currently living in “satan’s little season” because he has not been loosed from the bottomless pit, yet. However, the first seal (white horse) has been opened, in my view, and the second seal (red horse) is about to be opened by Christ. God bless!
Thank you for your discernment and insight. How do you view Ezekiel 36-38? I have always seen the 1948 return of the diaspora in Eze 36. The rebirth of Israel as a thriving nation from the dry bones of the Holocaust in ch 37. The chastisement of Israel in 38-39 followed by a demonstration of God's sovereignty and power in his preservation of a remnant. While it is conjecture on my part I hypothesized that the Daniel 12 daily sacrifice might then be returned amid 1 Thess 5 "peace peace" Then taken away followed by "sudden destruction." Thus marking the beginning of the approximately 3.5-year tribulation as described in Dan 12, (1290 days) Rev 12 (1260 days) (a time, and times, and half a time), and Rev 13 (42) months. Is my exegesis distorted?
The regathering of Israel has yet to happen. First of all, only Judah came back, and it is known that they never really left. Secondly, Ezekiel 37 is very clear that both Israel and Judah will become one nation again and repent of their sins. Thirdly, Christ will be their king. And lastly, there is a covenant of peace. None of this has happened yet. Israel is still at large in the nations. The people in the land largely reject Christ or are atheists. Additionally, they have one of the largest gay populations in the world. Definitely does not sound like they have been repentant. As of this date, Christ has yet to return. As far as peace, I would hardly call running to bomb shelters regularly peace. Please read those chapters again and try to apply them to the 1948 state of Israel. If you are honest with yourself, you can't. It is impossible to match those chapters to our current day. Now apply Jeremiah 25:29-33 and that is more likely what is going to be happening in the near future.
Yeah if "I am honest with myself" I don't trust my own judgment and biases especially the ones of which I remain unaware. I find, pride an all too-common and dangerous trait in eschatology circles. I am in the process of questioning my favorite presuppositions.
As I understand it, Jeremiah 25 was fulfilled around 600 BC. While the contemporary English word "Jew" is derived from "Judah", more than the tribe of Judah has continued to return to the land since 1948. I see an emphasis on using those who "profaned His name" in reestablishing the "Land of Israel" for His name's sake in Ezekiel 36 - 37. Clearly, the people have not repented as a nation.
Granted man's motivation to reestablish the nation of Israel was driven by an ongoing quest for routes and resources, e.g. control of the Suez Canal, and was funded by the synagogue of Satan, e.g. the British government and Rothschilds. Mankind has its twisted agendas, but God causes them to work for good for those who love Him and are called according to His purpose.
That said, I just bought Abraham's book so I will suspend any further eschatological hypotheses until I finish it.
Great job explaining this and being a good watchman!